‘Elmer Sterken should have been Elma’
International Women’s Day has existed since 1909, but many women at the RUG say it remains just as important today in the Netherlands in general and in the academic community in particular. The UK spoke to several female employees at the RUG and Aletta Jacobs prize winner Petra Stienen about women’s position at the university.
‘I personally think the RUG is eager to encourage women who want to become professors. I would almost say that I’m proud of the RUG for trying so hard, but at the same time, I’m disappointed that this is all they have done so far.
The Rosalind Franklin Fellowship is one way, but the Board of Directors and Human Resources are also noticeably trying their damnedest to make room for all that female potential. But there are also a lot of women who resent being chosen just because they’re female. The emphasis has to be on quality and there are just as many qualified women as men, although it might take a bit longer to find them.
If you really want it to happen, you make sure that it does. If nobody’s keeping an eye out in the workplace, keeping a finger on the pulse, and if there are no gender balanced selection committees or a gender balanced list of candidates, then it won’t happen in the workplace.’
Mineke Bosch, modern history professor and author of ‘Aletta Jacobs 1854-1929: Een onwrikbaar geloof in rechtvaardigheid’
‘In my experience, it remains true that representation plays an important part for men and women in science. We’re also talking about student evaluations, and the perception of what quality is. Think of lectures, for example: a large man with a beard exudes more authority than a frail young woman.
The RUG has almost no gender studies left. That’s truly awful. But within the Faculty of Arts, there’s a group of young women who have founded a Center for Gender Studies. They also want to set up a gender studies minor. I support that wholeheartedly. So there are all kinds of initiatives, but it’s still a controversial and complicated issue.’
Kristin McGee, popular music lecturer
‘I’m glad that after being here for 11 years that the board of directors is finally beginning to have discussions about the importance of gender. They’re taking a look at the requirements and perhaps why those requirements are presenting more obstacles for women than for men.
It’s this vicious cycle of these networks having traditionally been male-based, and having their own forms of socialising and preferences in terms of discursive decisions. There are all of these gendered things that are taken for granted, that women sort of have to act that way and go to the bar or the pub, and do the things that they may prefer not to do. That leads to situations where women are either not accommodating of those gender traditions or they’re just not getting into those networks.
The Rosalind Franklin Fellowship is great, but it always feels like it’s just providing a way of allowing the university to ignore the problems everywhere else. They can say: ‘We have this chair for women who are doing well in science, so we’re good on that, we’re done.’ But the larger problems just continue.’
Inge Bolwijn, office of the Board of Directors
‘The organisation itself is a pretty nice environment for women. If you have kids, they take that into account much more than a traditional company would. For example, you can start your day a little later. In that sense it’s not for nothing that so many women work here.
But things like that are dependent on your manager or supervisor. Some hold onto traditional gender roles, but I’m not a big fan of those. I like it better when the person I work with asks me to brainstorm along with them. There are so many people with all kinds of expertise and that can have its advantages, but it’s all dependent on whether or not a manager wants to make use of it. I also think the male colleagues can do a bit more to give women the room to contribute.’
Petra Stienen, winner of the 2016 Aletta Jacobs Prize
‘I can tell there’s a lot of interest in this prize. The name Aletta Jacobs has left an indelible mark on themes that are still relevant. We have come so far in the Netherlands since her days. If she could walk the halls of the university now, she’d be astounded that there are almost more women than men at the RUG. But what happens to women when they enter the labour market? There is some unfinished work there, for example division of labour, equal pay, and the visibility of women in public discourse.
The themes that were present during Aletta Jacobs’ days are still relevant, but now other groups – such as Arabic women and women of colour – are making their voices heard, and we need to listen to women’s voices in all their glory.’
Gerry Wakker, ancient Greek linguistics professor, dean of the Faculty of Arts and chief diversity officer
‘I experience the RUG as a very stimulating workplace, but it’s difficult to say whether that has anything to do with the fact that I am a woman working here. Before I became a dean, there was a lot of pressure on me from different sides from those who felt that it would be good if I – a woman – were to fulfil this position. We can see from the numbers that the percentage of women is decreasing the higher up you look, for instance the percentage of female professors, deans and members of the Board of Directors.’
In addition to her work as dean of the Faculty of Arts, Wakker, together with FMNS dean Jasper Knoester, has been named chief diversity officer, a position focused on diversity among students and staff. ‘One of these matters is hiring more women. We’re going to start with the process of raising awareness among the current staff and directors, and along the way, we’ll figure out what other actions are needed and possible. And diversity beyond merely gender will be a topic as well.’
Hilly Mast, study advisor and former chairperson of the University Council
‘The university in itself is a good place to work. That goes for women as well, partly because there are opportunities here. At the same time, it remains an old boy’s network. And it’s my experience that they have the power. The employment conditions offer some wiggle room, but in reality, there was quite a lot of pressure on it. There exists this implicit standard of ‘this is how we men have done it for years, and you women will just have to adapt’. The demands are quite unshakeable in that sense, and too high sometimes. I’m okay with that in and of itself, because as a woman I can certainly meet those demands.
I have been working at UMCG for 27 years, but I am not officially working at the RUG at the moment. Over the years, I have clearly seen more women reach higher positions. But those executive functions also had a glass ceiling. We have so many good women at the university, women with guts. So it’s strange that we’ve never tapped into that potential.
There’s an example that I still think is quite painful: approximately six years ago, there was a change in the Board of Directors and we needed to find a new rector. People were expecting a woman to finally be appointed to the rectorship. But it was once again a man who got the position. That happens, of course, but promises had been made. Elmer Sterken actually should’ve been Elma.’